Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  FEB 2016 broadcast

  by Grey Goose in

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  it might be the craziest one yet..

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  Weird. They use the example that Jesus never complained about injustices at the temple, but he was cooperative and worked with the system... except for the whole "stone will not be left upon a stone" thing where the Jewish system was destroyed and lots of people were killed/enslaved when he used the Romans to do the "complaining" for him. So Jesus wasn't a "complainer" when me made a whip and drove the money-changers out of the temple twice? Really dumb.

  The sappy video at the end just makes me mad again because I grew up when WT "encouraged" the "blessings of singleness" because "the end is so near"... 30 years ago. And the couple in the video actually kinda reminds me of a friend I knew in bethel who got married a little before I left. They were there a few more years before they got kicked out in one of the rounds of layoffs. They settled not far away, but not in a very good situation. He killed himself a couple of years ago. Ugh, now I need some brain bleach.
  
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  Hey from Ohio

  by sissyb in

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  hello all - i most likely won't post too often but want to introduce myself.

  i've read this board for a long time and feel like i know some of you!

  i was a third gen born-in (ne ohio), and half-heartedly believed until i was in middle school.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Good for you to get out while you're still young... and attended college.
  
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  FEB 2016 broadcast

  by Grey Goose in

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  it might be the craziest one yet..

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  Looks like Ken Flodin was given the job of dishing out lots of FOG (fear, obligation, and guilt). Don't grieve the holy spirit of the powerless Bronze Age god!
  
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  Proof of Jehovah's fast moving chariot!

  by Sour Grapes in

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  at the meeting sunday, the brother giving the "public talk" (no one from the public is ever there) was talking about how the organization is moving so fast.

  as proof of this he held up the new field service time slip.

  yep, that was plenty of proof for me, a smaller time slip to guilt the congregation to use their tablets in service to show video's.

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  In this age of jet and rocket travel, only JWs would brag about being as fast as a horse-drawn wagon.

  From what I've seen, JWs have gotten slower. I used to see a few moving at Pioneer Shuffle pace. Now I only see them standing around litteratrash trolleys. I see those things have wheels, but I've never seen them move.

  I think the only paper that might prove that these JWs are moving is some of this paper:

  
  
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  New Here

  by Grey Goose in

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  hi one and all.. i've lurked for 3 years, about time i signed up.. i'm a still in ms due to family.. fully awake.. i look forward to getting to know all of you..

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  Welcome!
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  New here

  by MarkofCane in

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  hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.

  i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.

  i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..

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  Welcome Cain and thanks for sharing! Waking up to TTATT also involves a grieving process, anger, sadness, regret, etc.

  The elders are trying to set you up with a CO shepherding call? Reminds me of the last CO that had a one-on-one visit with me while I was fading. Within 4 months of our conversation, he'd left the the road. He was so unhappy and seemed to be asking me for advice after my experiences as a bethelite and an ex-bethelite. I "encouraged" him to look for options where he could control his own life and future rather than to leave his fate completely in the hands of the often very fickle branch management. I tried not to be too obvious about finding options outside of being CO, but I suspect that he already was wanting to quit and I was the last little push. I'm not sure what happened to him after that. He was a nice guy... much too nice to be a CO.
  
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  Governing Body Letter details things that "have never been done before." - Really?

  by cappytan in

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  [note: copy/pasted this with permission from reddit.].

  once each year, the governing body writes a direct letter to the congregation members included in the yearbook.

  in his annual message to the catholic faithful (urbi et orbi) delivered on christmas day, the pope spoke about world peace, terrorism, and the refugee crisis.

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  The prophet Isaiah humbly acknowledged that any success and prosperity that the Kingdom of Judah enjoyed was due only to the blessing of Jehovah. As we read at Isaiah 26:12, he declared: “O Jehovah, . . . everything we have done you have accomplished for us.” Reflecting on all that has been accomplished during the past service year causes us to make a similar admission.Jehovah is truly doing “wonderful things that have never been done” before! (Ex. 34:10) Just think of some of the blessings that we have received from his hand.

  From this reasoning, shouldn't any success and prosperity enjoyed by organizations from Apple, Inc to Muslim extremists to Trump's presidential campaign be credited to Jehovah?

  Compared to the accomplishments of all non-WT organizations, that list given by the GB is pathetically small. The Bronze Age desert god is struggling to keep up with the times.
  
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  Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?

  by slimboyfat in

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  if this has been discussed i missed it.

  i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.

  but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.

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  HAVE YOU BEEN CALLED "YOU IDIOT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE CRACKERS AND WINE"?
  15 Perhaps you are wondering if you have received this wonderful invitation. If you think that you might have, ponder some important questions. Do you feel that women have small brains and should shutup? Do you have complete hatred for “higher education,” yet still have the nerve to request free services from those who have completed university degree programs? Did you serve in Vietnam and enjoy bringing up your experiences there? Have you found yourself blaming everything from tight pants to women speaking their minds on homosexuals? Do you have a burning desire to star on a cheesy Internet fake news program? Do you have a deep inner feeling of superiority over others spiritually? Have you seen that nibbling crackers and sipping wine has improved your station in life, perhaps freeing you from a miserable missionary assignment in some hellhole? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not. Why not? Because you also need to be a fat white dude with male pattern baldness that you're trying to hide (sorry, we have enough token exceptions to these rules among the 'genuine anointed'). Jehovah’s spirit works invisibly and mysteriously, so the Governing Body will notify you when and where any anointing happens. In fact, if you have received the anointification calling, we'll let you know. Ha ha, just kidding. We're sure that none of you have been invited to receive the heavenly calling to Warwick.

  That was the original draft of the paragraph.
  
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  2016 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by wifibandit in

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  the 2016 yearbook is now on the official site.

  pdf.

  it has been added to the archive of all prior yearbooks.

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  30% decrease in aux pios, eh?

  They initially got a boost when they first allowed aux pios for just 30 hours during special campaigns and CO's visit. Looks like that enthusiasm wore off. Time for them to reduce aux pios to 20 hours.
  
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  CoBE Joins those Elders Deserting the Sinking Ship

  by The Searcher in

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  from a reliable source:.

  a young cobe - late thirties, maybe forty - has resigned in december 2015, both as the cobe and as an elder.

  word is that he is a man with a young family who is stressed out and has had enough.

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  Word is that he is a man with a young family who is stressed out and has had enough.

  This then leaves more work for the rest of the eldurs on the body.

  When it comes to the organization and stress, there are two types:

  1. Those that feel stress and get exhausted.
  2. Those that create the stress and exhaust others.